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Queer Eye star Jonathan Van Ness is shedding light on what really happened during his heated interview on Dax Shepard’s Armchair Expert podcast, during which the two butted heads over trans issues.
Back in September, Van Ness and Shepard got into a heated debate about transgender children participating in sports that left Van Ness in tears. Following the episode’s release, Shepard earned reams of backlash for his insensitive comments about the dangers of teenagers transitioning: “How do we know that person’s not gonna change their mind?” he asked at the time.
Speaking on Keke Palmer’s podcast this week, Van Ness revealed that his interview with Shepard was heavily edited, saying, “There were some significant pieces of that conversation that were left out that did ultimately have me in tears.”