<!-- wp:html --><p>Elon Musk and Bill Gates have had a number of apparent feuds over the years.</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-ceo-elon-musk">Elon Musk</a> and Bill Gates don't seem to agree on climate change, the pandemic, or space travel.<br />
They've made public jabs at each other for years in interviews and on social media. <br />
Gates said Musk "was super mean to me" after he took issue with the Microsoft founder shorting Tesla stock.</p>
<p>Bill Gates and Elon Musk haven't always exactly seen eye-to-eye.</p>
<p>While the Microsoft billionaire and the Tesla titan have never appeared to have a particularly cozy relationship, things have heated up over the past few years as the two have openly sparred about topics as varied as electric vehicles and the pandemic. </p>
<p>The two moguls are <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/billionaires/?sref=BWbpWjRm">among the world's wealthiest people</a>, with Musk at No. 1 and Gates at No. 5, according to Bloomberg data as of early September. </p>
<p>While their public spats may not always be serious, they do appear to fundamentally disagree on how to fight disease; how to address climate change; on whether cryptocurrency is legitimate; and on the importance of space travel.</p>
<p>In fact, <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-bill-gates-super-mean-shorted-tesla-stock-biographer-2023-9">new details from Walter Isaacson's forthcoming biography on Musk</a> suggest that their relationship behind closed doors may've been more tense than we would've thought. </p>
<p>Here's where the friction between Gates and Musk began and everything that's happened since.</p>
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<div class="slide-title">Things first became tense between Bill Gates and Elon Musk in 2020.</div>
<div class="slide-image">Gates' and Musk's tense relationship began at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020.
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<p>At the time, they were both involved in fighting the coronavirus — <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/how-bill-gates-is-dealing-with-coronavirus-outbreak-2020">Gates pledged hundreds of millions of dollars to fight the virus</a>, while Musk was working to source and produce ventilators.</p>
<p>Musk had also <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-building-microfactories-with-coronavirus-vaccine-maker-curevac-2020-7">teamed up with the German biotech firm CureVac</a> (in which Gates is an investor) <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tesla-ventilator-controversy-explained-2020-4">to make a device to aid in vaccine production</a>.</p>
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<div class="slide-title">But Musk was also frequently downplaying the severity of the virus and strongly criticizing stay-at-home orders.</div>
<div class="slide-image">Musk once spread misinformation about the COVID-19 virus.
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<p>He'd <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-coronavirus-comments-timeline-stay-at-home-rules-fascist-2020-5#musk-plugs-the-malaria-drug-chloroquine-a-possible-covid-19-treatment-which-is-not-scientifically-proven-4">promoted the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine as a treatment</a>, falsely said that <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-coronavirus-comments-timeline-stay-at-home-rules-fascist-2020-5#musk-falsely-claims-that-children-are-essentially-immune-to-the-virus-and-agrees-with-a-false-claim-that-deaths-are-leveling-out-in-italy-3">children are immune to the virus</a>, and suggested that <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-coronavirus-death-counts-lie-too-high-2020-5">coronavirus-deaths data are "misleading.</a>" </p>
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<div class="slide-title">Gates took issue with Musk's behavior regarding the virus.</div>
<div class="slide-image">Gates called Musk's views on COVID-19 "outrageous."
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<p>"Elon's positioning is to maintain a high level of outrageous comments ... I hope that he doesn't confuse areas he's not involved in too much," <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/28/bill-gates-lies-spread-faster-than-facts-on-social-media.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Gates said on CNBC's "Squawk Box</a>" in 2020.</p>
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<div class="slide-title">The comments struck a nerve with Musk, who taunted Gates on Twitter.</div>
<div class="slide-image">In response to Gates, Musk made fun of the Microsoft founder with a series of tweets.
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<p><a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1288722245280464896?s=20&t=r_yKskuBivOBjPiH3ZCdWA" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Musk jokingly posted multiple tweets about Gates</a>, writing "Billy G is not my lover" and "The rumor that Bill Gates & I are lovers is completely untrue."</p>
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<div class="slide-title">In fact, Musk defended his role in the coronavirus relief efforts.</div>
<div class="slide-image">Musk pushed back against Gate's criticisms on his COVID views in a podcast.
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<p>"Gates said something about me not knowing what I was doing," <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/28/opinion/sway-kara-swisher-elon-musk.html?referringSource=articleShare" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Musk told The New York Times</a> during a podcast interview in September 2020. "It's like, 'Hey, knucklehead, we actually make the vaccine machines for CureVac, that company you're invested in.'"</p>
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<div class="slide-title">But another major source of tension between Gates and Musk appears to be climate change — specifically, how big of an impact Tesla has in reducing emissions and helping the planet.</div>
<div class="slide-image">The 2022 Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo Turbo S, an electric car similar to the one Gates purchased.
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<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV2tMP37ygs" target="_blank" rel="noopener">During a 2020 interview</a> with the YouTuber Marques Brownlee, Gates said that while Tesla had helped to drive innovation and adoption of electric vehicles, he'd purchased different electric car, a Porsche Taycan.</p>
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<div class="slide-title">Gates' comments didn't seem to have bothered Musk.</div>
<div class="slide-image">Musk and Gates have had a contentious relationship over the years.
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<p>At the time, Musk tweeted that <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1229568241552502784?s=20" target="_blank" rel="noopener">his conversations with Gates had always been "underwhelming."</a></p>
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<div class="slide-title">Musk also took issue with a blog post Gates wrote that questioned whether it was practical to make vehicles like 18-wheelers fully electric.</div>
<div class="slide-image">Musk has said Gates has "no clue" what the Tesla founder is doing to combat climate change.
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<p>Though Gates didn't mention Tesla in <a href="https://www.gatesnotes.com/Moving-around-in-a-zero-carbon-world?WT.mc_id=20200824080000_Energy-Transportation_BG-TW_&WT.tsrc=BGTW" target="_blank" rel="noopener">the blog post</a>, <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-18-wheeler-semi">the company has developed a semi,</a> and when a Twitter user asked Musk about his opinion of Gates' comments, <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1304792315634966529?s=20" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Musk replied, "he has no clue.</a>"</p>
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<div class="slide-title">Gates has issued Musk a few rare compliments over the years.</div>
<div class="slide-image">The Microsoft founder has occasionally praised Musk for his contributions to fighting climate change.
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<p><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-elon-musk-mars-climate-electric-vehicles-2021-2">During a podcast interview in 2021</a>, Gates said that what Musk has accomplished with Tesla is "one of the greatest contributions to climate change anyone's ever made" and said that "underestimating Elon is not a good idea."</p>
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<div class="slide-title">But Gates has also touted his own climate contributions over Musk's.</div>
<div class="slide-image">Bill Gates at the COP26 climate conference in Glasgow, Scotland, in November 2021.
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<p>"I give a lot more to climate change than Elon or anyone else," <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-shorting-tesla-wont-hurt-musk-says-sigh-2022-6">Gates said during a June 2022 interview with French YouTuber Hugo Décrypte</a>. "I give a lot of philanthropic dollars, I back companies — you know, electric cars are about 16% of emissions, so we also need to solve that other 84%."</p>
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<div class="slide-image">In response to the Gates interview, Musk responded with a tweet.
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<p>"Sigh," <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-shorting-tesla-wont-hurt-musk-says-sigh-2022-6">he tweeted.</a></p>
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<div class="slide-title">While space exploration — specifically, colonizing Mars — is a main focus of Musk's, Gates isn't impressed.</div>
<div class="slide-image">SpaceX CEO Elon Musk at the unveiling of the SpaceX Dragon V2 spacecraft in 2014.
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<p><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-elon-musk-mars-climate-electric-vehicles-2021-2">During an interview</a> on a New York Times podcast in early 2021, Gates said that while he may be missing something about <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-elon-musk">space travel and Musk's SpaceX</a>, he's "not a Mars person ... I don't think rockets are the solution." He added that he'd rather spend his money on vaccines here on Earth than on space travel.</p>
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<div class="slide-title">Gates has also taken issue with the mania surrounding cryptocurrencies, which Musk has helped fuel online.</div>
<div class="slide-image">Gates has been vocal about the environmental impact of cryptocurrencies.
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<p>The Microsoft billionaire noted <a href="https://markets.businessinsider.com/currencies/news/bill-gates-not-bullish-bitcoin-uses-energy-elon-musk-boom-2021-2-1030111996">how much energy bitcoin uses</a>, making it not very environmentally friendly, and warned investors not to dump money into bitcoin like Tesla has.</p>
<p>"My general thought would be that if you have less money than Elon, you should probably watch out," he said.</p>
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<div class="slide-title">Though Musk recently said he's "moving on" from making fun of Gates, he's done his fair share of mocking the Microsoft founder over the years.</div>
<div class="slide-image">Musk has continued to mock Gates despite saying he has moved on.
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<p>In April of 2022, <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-moving-on-from-making-fun-bill-gates-2022-4">he once tweeted</a> an <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-bill-gates-anti-vaxx-cartoon-microsoft-zune-plan-2021-4">anti-vaccine political cartoon about Gates.</a></p>
<p>That same month, he <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-mocks-bill-gates-weight-tesla-stock-2022-4">mocked Gates' weight</a> online.</p>
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<div class="slide-title">Musk has also publicly taken issue with Gates over what he says is Gates' multimillion-dollar short position against Tesla.</div>
<div class="slide-image">Musk has criticized Gates over his short position against Tesla.
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<p><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-turned-down-bill-gates-philanthropy-over-tesla-short-2022-4">Tesla short-sellers</a> have been a frequent target of Musk's over the years, to the point where he's argued that the practice should be illegal.</p>
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<div class="slide-title">In a leaked text-message exchange between the two billionaires, which Musk said is legitimate, Gates seems to confirm that he's betting against Tesla.</div>
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<p>"Sorry, but I cannot take your philanthropy on climate change seriously when you have a massive short position against Tesla, the company doing the most to solve climate change," Musk replied.</p>
<p>—Whole Mars Catalog (@WholeMarsBlog) <a href="https://twitter.com/mims/statuses/1517626832241057792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2022</a></p>
<p>Gates said he'd but says he'd still like to work on a climate-focused philanthropic opportunity together.</p>
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<div class="slide-title">After the text exchange, Gates told Walter Isaacson, the author of the forthcoming biography of Musk, that he apologized to Musk.</div>
<div class="slide-image">Gates told Isaacson that Musk was "super mean to him" after he lowered Tesla's short position.
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<p>"Once he heard I'd shorted the stock, he was super mean to me, but he's super mean to so many people, so you can't take it too personally," <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-bill-gates-super-mean-shorted-tesla-stock-biographer-2023-9">Gates told Isaacson</a>.</p>
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<p>When asked whether they're friends, Gates replied, "I like him. I think he does great work. I don't know him very well."</p>
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Elon Musk and Bill Gates have had a number of apparent feuds over the years.
Susan Walsh/AP; Mike Cohen/Getty Images for The New York Times
Elon Musk and Bill Gates don’t seem to agree on climate change, the pandemic, or space travel.
They’ve made public jabs at each other for years in interviews and on social media.
Gates said Musk “was super mean to me” after he took issue with the Microsoft founder shorting Tesla stock.
Bill Gates and Elon Musk haven’t always exactly seen eye-to-eye.
While the Microsoft billionaire and the Tesla titan have never appeared to have a particularly cozy relationship, things have heated up over the past few years as the two have openly sparred about topics as varied as electric vehicles and the pandemic.
The two moguls are among the world’s wealthiest people, with Musk at No. 1 and Gates at No. 5, according to Bloomberg data as of early September.
While their public spats may not always be serious, they do appear to fundamentally disagree on how to fight disease; how to address climate change; on whether cryptocurrency is legitimate; and on the importance of space travel.
Gates took issue with Musk’s behavior regarding the virus.
Gates called Musk’s views on COVID-19 “outrageous.”
Ramin Talaie / Getty
“Elon’s positioning is to maintain a high level of outrageous comments … I hope that he doesn’t confuse areas he’s not involved in too much,” Gates said on CNBC’s “Squawk Box” in 2020.
The comments struck a nerve with Musk, who taunted Gates on Twitter.
In response to Gates, Musk made fun of the Microsoft founder with a series of tweets.
In fact, Musk defended his role in the coronavirus relief efforts.
Musk pushed back against Gate’s criticisms on his COVID views in a podcast.
Patrick Pleul/picture alliance via Getty Images
“Gates said something about me not knowing what I was doing,” Musk told The New York Times during a podcast interview in September 2020. “It’s like, ‘Hey, knucklehead, we actually make the vaccine machines for CureVac, that company you’re invested in.'”
But another major source of tension between Gates and Musk appears to be climate change — specifically, how big of an impact Tesla has in reducing emissions and helping the planet.
The 2022 Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo Turbo S, an electric car similar to the one Gates purchased.
Tim Levin/Insider
During a 2020 interview with the YouTuber Marques Brownlee, Gates said that while Tesla had helped to drive innovation and adoption of electric vehicles, he’d purchased different electric car, a Porsche Taycan.
Gates’ comments didn’t seem to have bothered Musk.
Musk and Gates have had a contentious relationship over the years.
Gates has issued Musk a few rare compliments over the years.
The Microsoft founder has occasionally praised Musk for his contributions to fighting climate change.
Susan Walsh/AP; Mike Cohen/Getty Images for The New York Times
During a podcast interview in 2021, Gates said that what Musk has accomplished with Tesla is “one of the greatest contributions to climate change anyone’s ever made” and said that “underestimating Elon is not a good idea.”
But Gates has also touted his own climate contributions over Musk’s.
Bill Gates at the COP26 climate conference in Glasgow, Scotland, in November 2021.
While space exploration — specifically, colonizing Mars — is a main focus of Musk’s, Gates isn’t impressed.
SpaceX CEO Elon Musk at the unveiling of the SpaceX Dragon V2 spacecraft in 2014.
Kevork Djansezian/Getty Images
During an interview on a New York Times podcast in early 2021, Gates said that while he may be missing something about space travel and Musk’s SpaceX, he’s “not a Mars person … I don’t think rockets are the solution.” He added that he’d rather spend his money on vaccines here on Earth than on space travel.
Gates has also taken issue with the mania surrounding cryptocurrencies, which Musk has helped fuel online.
Gates has been vocal about the environmental impact of cryptocurrencies.
Jason Lee/Reuters
The Microsoft billionaire noted how much energy bitcoin uses, making it not very environmentally friendly, and warned investors not to dump money into bitcoin like Tesla has.
“My general thought would be that if you have less money than Elon, you should probably watch out,” he said.
Though Musk recently said he’s “moving on” from making fun of Gates, he’s done his fair share of mocking the Microsoft founder over the years.
Musk has continued to mock Gates despite saying he has moved on.
Musk has also publicly taken issue with Gates over what he says is Gates’ multimillion-dollar short position against Tesla.
Musk has criticized Gates over his short position against Tesla.
Maja Hitij/Getty Images
Tesla short-sellers have been a frequent target of Musk’s over the years, to the point where he’s argued that the practice should be illegal.
In a leaked text-message exchange between the two billionaires, which Musk said is legitimate, Gates seems to confirm that he’s betting against Tesla.
“Sorry, but I cannot take your philanthropy on climate change seriously when you have a massive short position against Tesla, the company doing the most to solve climate change,” Musk replied.
Gates said he’d but says he’d still like to work on a climate-focused philanthropic opportunity together.
After the text exchange, Gates told Walter Isaacson, the author of the forthcoming biography of Musk, that he apologized to Musk.
Gates told Isaacson that Musk was “super mean to him” after he lowered Tesla’s short position.
Taylor Hill/Getty Images
“Once he heard I’d shorted the stock, he was super mean to me, but he’s super mean to so many people, so you can’t take it too personally,” Gates told Isaacson.
During a 2022 interview with YouTuber Hugo Décrypte, Gates seemed to imply that the issue is Musk’s, not his.
When asked whether they’re friends, Gates replied, “I like him. I think he does great work. I don’t know him very well.”
